Santino Marella’s WWE debut memorably had him run into a match against Umaga as a planted fan picked by Vince McMahon, crowning him as the new WWE Intercontinental Champion.

By now, fans know the whole segment was a work, but according to Marella in an interview on “What Do You Wanna Talk About? With Cody Rhodes,” WWE HOFer, and Cody’s father, Dusty Rhodes had a major role to play in getting him to that point.

“[Dusty Rhodes] taught us this lesson; I implemented it one month later, and it changed my life,” he recalled.

Marella then told the story about indie wrestler ‘Fearless’ Jack Bull onc